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6/4/2009
I AM TIRED OF HEARING, “YOU ARE SO SHARP, YOU CAN’T HAVE IT!” I am sharp because I am in the Early Stage of Alzheimer’s Disease (AD)! That’s the way we are. This is normal for Early Stage. When you say “You can’t have it” Though you mean well, you feel you are re-assuring us we don’t come off as bad as People with AD are supposed to look, you have to know what a put down it is. The common misperception about people with AD is this: If you have AD you must be drooling, standing in the corner unable to find you directions out of it. Because this biased perception of what we are we are often outcasts or patronized. Please help us overcome the public stereotype of what we are supposed to be! Certainly, those of is in the Early Stage of this disease do not show it. We come off as being very normal, able to think, do a lot of remembering, find our directions, carry on a conversation and do everything else we could before we got it. The only change is this: We have some limitations. Because of these the Health Care Folks can tell us, yes we have it, yes it will get worse, yes it will ultimately cause you to die. You can hold it off from becoming worse if you Take Mediation, Eat Right, Exercise Daily and engage in Social, Creative and Intellectually Stimulating Activity, this will prolong your stay in the Early Stage. The put down of telling us we can’t have it is this: • I have gone through the heart wrench of being diagnosed with it. • I have had to deal with the absolute shift in who and what I am because of it. • I have had to accept the tragedy of what it does now and will in the future visit on my family and loved ones. • I have had to learn to live with the ultimatum this diagnosis serves. “You have a terminal disease, one in which you mind goes by degrees followed by your body inching its way to death that is the absolute end result. • I will suffer this emasculation: While I have it I will need to depend on others more and more, I cannot now do everything else without the help of a caregiver, which will become more and more of a need as I progress to conscious oblivion, helplessness and death. This is no exaggeration! Thank God I come off as good as I do. I still have a quality of life that I cherish and want to prolong. To do this I need you to: • Love me, love me a lot I am suffering and I need your support! Accept me as I am. Trust me, I do have this awful disease, I do not want it but am trying to make the best of it. Please don’t make it harder for me by discounting it or denying it! • Spend time with me. I love social time, activity and the camaraderie of friends and family. I love to do things. I will be a little different, particularly as time goes by. I try to work around it, overlook it when I slip. Above all make a place for me in your lives. I need it more than I ever did. • Tell everyone you know I have this disease and I do pretty doggone well with it. We suffer a stigma because of our disease. We are with it, with you and want to do things, like volunteer, be in organizations, and participate in everything as a normal person. We do not want to be left on the shelf or put into a warehouse as too often a day care, assisted living or nursing home has become to be for us. With your acceptance we are more likely to get the kind of help we need, like Eating Right, Daily Exercise and having available Social, Creative and Intellectually Stimulating Activity, both organized and self provided, which along with the medication we have available will prolong us in the Early Stage. If this can be made to happen this improves our quality of life that has been so damaged by our diagnosis. It truly assists our families and care givers because we can continue helping ourselves longer. It greatly benefits the community and the country because it will be longer before the expense of outside help or institutionalization is needed. Mike Donohue My Blog: My Alzheimer’s Afterthoughts http://im-mike.blogspot.com/ My Book: FROM AA TO AD, A Wistful Travelogue http://icmike.blogspot.com/ |
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Thank you for the posting. It was so true and so touching and very well represents how we are feeling. I know it did for me.
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Thought provoking as always, Mike. With me, you particularly got me to thinking about how little I hear that anymore. Enough shows in conversation now, that nobody tells me I'm joking about dementia anymore.
I hated being contradicted, like you're experiencing. But, nowadays, it'd be nice to hear it every now and then. Look, I'm not that bad, I'm still a Stage 4 most of the time. It's just when I get a little worse, I know that, barring medical intervention, I'll only get worse. What philosopher was it, that warned, when we look into the abyss, the abyss is looking into us? I feel the abyss pretty strong today. Ergo the rambling, I guess. Alan |
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Hi Admirable Mike,
I started following your posts and blog about a week ago and I have to admit that although I believed you are in early stage AD, I am one of those that thought to myself, "he really expresses himself so well for having AD." I for one truly hope you find a way to prolong the first stages for as long as possible. You are very important to all of us as an advocate to fight this body function sucking monster and I love to read the stuff you write. I do agree with Alan though, when the signs become more obvious and people just know that you have it, we would probably welcome someone saying that they can't tell or can't believe it. So cherish the time you have now, and welcome those compliments while you can. Just say Thank You and leave it at that. You don't have to go into any explanations each time. I know for myself, looking back over the past years of caring for my mother, as hard as those early stages were to deal with, I wish she were back like that now. She is in the last stage and can't do anything to care for herself. She is totally dependent on me. Although, it "seems" she has improved a bit following Dr. Mary Newports regimen with MCT and Coconut Oil along with some other things, still waiting for the verdict on this. Reading and researching has become more urgent for me recently as my older brother, 64, was just diagnosed with AD. My family on both sides has a history. Anyway, just wanted to say, I'm following you, listening to you, admire you, accepting you and trusting your words. I can't really spend time with you since you're in Minnesota and I'm in California, except in these forums and it's too soon to tell you I love you, because I hardly know you, hee hee, Looking forward to more posts from you, keep up the good work. "Life, ya just gotta laugh" BeckyP (Full time cargiver, 11 years, mom AD) |
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Hey Mike,
I am so grateful for your post. I didn't think anyone in the world felt like I do. That hits it on the head for me. When I tell someone I have AD they just look at me and say "No you don't. Everyone forgets when they get up in years." Well I forget more than someone "getting up in years." I am only 64 and don't feel that is "getting up in years." Also, lately I have been feeling like my family have been avoiding me. My husband works out of state, most of the time, so alot of my care is left to my son and daughter in law. I really don't need much help but I would love for them to ask me to go out with them or just come to visit more often. I still drive but I am afraid to go somewhere unknown. I panic and find reasons why I can't go. My daughter in law keeps telling me "Just get in the car and go." I wish it was that easy. Well enough of my problems. I really enjoyed your post. Just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed reading it. Barbara rbmason@tds.net Maine |
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I don't worry anymore about what people say,I just ignore it,knowing later things WILL change.......They are the ignorant ones......
SnowyLynne |
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I've been off work since the end of November and yesterday I had lunch with some of my friends from work. We were catching up on the going's on at work and how everyone was doing. When I spoke about how I am doing and about my husband and two daughters, at times, I would lose my train of thought. I could tell that this really disturbed my friends. I looked at them and they were misty-eyed... even the guy. Later I sent an email to them and told them that I appreciated having the opportunity to have lunch with them and that even though I stumbled a bit, I still felt comfortable because they are friends. (I actually think they felt more uncomfortable than I did). To look at me, no one would know anything is wrong; so I think they were a bit shocked and were feeling bad for me as I stumbled. And I have already explained before how I had two doctors blow me off because I looked okay and was functional. I too think people do avoid us because it is uncomfortable. Wow. How uncomfortable is this mess to us! I did tell my friends that I appreciated the lunch date and that it felt good to be amoung friends.
I also still drive but do not feel comfortable driving to unfamiliar places or places where it has been a while since I've gone. I also avoid times when the traffic is heavy. I have gps,so I rely on that if I am the least bit uncomfortable with driving to a particular place. I am afraid to go somewhere unknown. I much more prefer my husband driving me places because some places that used to be familiar to me are no longer and I get anxious when driving which adds to more confusion. Anyway, we just have to do the best we can for as long as we can while we can! Your daughter will understand soon. I think mine (ages 24 and 31) as well as my husband are getting the picture. My girls live out of town. I find this to be a lonesome, frustrating road. By the way, I am 54. I have two sisters who also have the disease. One is in her 60's and one in her 70's. I had one brother with the disease. He passed away in his 60's. My mom was the first in our family with it and she was in her 70's. Three brothers and one sister have so far dodged the monster. Fun stuff, huh! DEPRESSING! gyr |
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Mike,
I understand your frustrations. Many times when I talk with my friends they say "Are you sure those doctors are right?" "You seem pretty good to me." I guess I'm pretty good at hiding/covering things so that others won't worry. I've done it since my husband died 27 years ago. I didn't want ANYONE to worry about me. Even my doctors said "Yes, the testing shows EOAD but you do a good job in covering it." I guess that's a compliment? So, perhaps you can take it as a compliment too. Hang in there, Mike. Peace and Hope, Lisa check out my blog @ http://lcc-thoughtsfromtherollercoaster.blogspot.com/ |
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Today I visited a friend who has two granddaughters who are sisters. The older one is married with 2 children and is working. The younger one is still in school. I asked the older one, "How is school?' She looked at me, kind of coldly, I thought, and said, "I'm not in school." I had mistaken her for the younger one. I can't distinguish them, even though they don't look alike when I see them together. I feel embarrassed at times like this and I don't really want to talk to people I don't know well. I don't even want to be in the same room with them.
Iris L. I am my own caregiver. |
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Thank God for these message boards. Without them I'd have no one to tell my stories to, because even the professional listeners don't understand memory loss in the ambulatory patients. Thank you all for being here.
Iris L. I am my own caregiver. |
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So true, Iris, that these message boards are - unfortunately - a unique place of understanding.
Then there are the looks people get, when they look at me funny after I ask a question. That look that seems to say, they've already told me, should they remind me, is this something to worry about, how do they get out of this . . . I can't think of the last time someone said I didn't seem to have a problem. If only I'd known it, when the last time was happening! I could have written it all down in detail, to look at later. And yes, thanks to everyone here. Alan |
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I don't even mention it anymore, Mike. It isn't worth the energy. Once it affects them or someone close to them, maybe it will register.
Bill "Memory.....is an internal rumor." - George Santayana My blog: www.wheretobud.blogspot.com |
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Mike D.'s post brought tears to my eyes. At 73 in the early stages, I am on the shelf in a lovely assisted living facility--and I am really on a shelf. I am surrounded by other residents who are all at least 20 years older than I; some suffering from late stage AD; some just 90-100 and suffering from old age dementia. I am the second youngest person here--the youngest is a man who has Parkinson's disease and is very smart. He and I compete in a weekly game of "Millionaire." My kids are somewhat attentive, although I haven't seen my daughter, who lives nearby, in over a month. I agree with Mike --I want to tell the kids I need them now more than ever. It would be so nice to be invited for a family dinner or taken out once in a while. They take care of my physical needs, but I long for an intelligent conversation.
The staff here is my best contact with intelligent people. Most of the residents don't even know for sure what day it is. I conduct a weekly current events discussion, and it's amazing how stimulating it is for the AD patients and how lively and intelligent their discussion can be. I wish the owners of establishments such as this would understand that just as important as exercise for our bodies is exercise for our minds. Being me, here, is equivalent to having a life sentence for an indeterminate number of years, during which time I have an incurable disease which is just going to get worse until I finally die from it or something related to it. At 73, I realize I could live an additional 20 years this way. I wish they had let me die when I was in the hospital. I am under constant scrutiny because I am depressed and admitted one time that I had researched what constituted a lethal dose of aspirin. They have taken away my aspirin bottle and something so simple as an aspirin must now be administered at specific times--no matter when the pain exists, I have to wait until the appointed time for another dose. These chat rooms are a big help. Thanks for being out there. wyn.martello@gmail.com |
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Hey Wyn,
So glad your computer is back, up and running. It's good to hear from you. I'm sorry things are not going so well. Would it be out of the question to ask your daughter out to eat?? I think you really need to speak with your daughter and your family about what's going on and how YOU are feeling! I know what you mean about these message boards. There are a life saver. I don't know what I'd do without them! Please, keep posting! Peace and Hope, Lisa check out my blog @ http://lcc-thoughtsfromtherollercoaster.blogspot.com/ |
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To Wyn, Hey compadre, I will be your age in October. I look at my years and value each one of them knowing I earned them. The last five or so the price has come high. Nonetheless they are mine.
My heart breaks hearing you. Life in our current day warehousing of the ill and infirm sucks. If you follow this you may have heard my crying some months ago when I spent two weeks in a nursing home recovering from some ugly surgery in a condition that my wife, equally frail with a connective tissue disease, was unable to care for me until I could do my own transfers. I was in the best in town and found it to be more than inadequate. When I asked incredulously why but one bath a week? They could not afford an attendant for more. That is but the start of the litany I had on an otherwise good place plighted by our overbalanced economic superstructure where the physical plant and the administrators get what financing is available and the patients get the economy that is left. I have learned a lot through the acceptance I learned as a recovering alcoholic. When AD came along 30 years later I had the tools to accept this too, they were there ready and waiting. When reading and writing about it particularly asking why it could be made tolerable this way I found the answer finally in Buddhism. Utilizing the way of Buddhism, retaining my western religion, applying Buddhism there, I found finally the peace and serenity I first started seeking 34 years ago in AA. I have that now, with AD,using AD as my tool to give compassion to others. This keeps me in peace and serenity today, I hope tomorrow and each day thereafter. I hope that might direct you, starting perhaps with a good anti depressant for you depression and then acceptance to give the depression the goose grease to slip down the toilet!! Good luck Wyn and may the blessings of acceptance abound in you. Mike Donohue My Blog: My Alzheimer’s Afterthoughts http://im-mike.blogspot.com/ My Book: FROM AA TO AD, A Wistful Travelogue http://icmike.blogspot.com/ |
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Having just lost my father all the thoughts of how, why, and why us and what am I going to do now are rambling through my head. He went from stage 4 to stage 7 in only 4 months. During that time I came to the realization that this disease is very isolating. Not just for the person with AD but for the caregivers as well. It came as a shock yesterday to realize that the only person that visited during this time was my deceased mother's best friend.
So that being said any social activity is good even if it makes the others feel uncomfortable, it is essentially human to want companionship. Please don't stop seeing your friends. * Life is too short to live with regret. |
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That, Wyn, is some fine writing! Powerful, hit-you-in-the-gut, real writing. Have you pursued getting published? Rosanne, please tell me you made a typo -- that your father didn't really go from Stage 4 to Stage 7 in just a few months? That is the most frightening thing I've heard . . . well, maybe ever. Were there special circumstances? Any idea why it took him so quickly? Alan |
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Actually, I used to write sometime columns for a now defunct woman's magazine and for the Chicago Daily News and was a theatre critic for a Woodstock, IL, newspaper. Had my own business editing and preparing for publication other people's books. I have always been in love with the English language, and turned that love into a little business.
I've been thinking here of doing an open letter to the activity director from the standpoint of one at the beginning of the downward spiral in re to what we actually need in the way of "activities" and how badly we need mental stimulation as much as we need physical exercise and just entertainment. I have observed how others, not just I, respond positively to mentally stimulating things such as the Millionaire game and how we just fall asleep when the nice lady reads us ghost stories in the weekly reading group. We had one lady who read to us about local history and promoted a lot of interactive discussion--then the ladies changed and on came the ghost story one and we just retreated into nodding off. I figure someone like me who is in the early stages and still "with it" enough to do so is best equipped to talk about what works and what doesn't. Maybe in that way I can feel useful again. wyn.martello@gmail.com |
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Wyn:
You have tools! Make a commitment to use them! Adopt your cause! Writ about it, advocate for it, concentrate on doing it! Don't give a damn about what it accomplishes, give a damn about doing it. I have learned in my life approximately 1/2 a year shorter than yours, there is more joy in the search, in taking the trip, than finding it or getting there. These are the tools I used following my admonition for retirement: Find a lot of things you enjoy doing, do them, but leave enough time for a nap!" I guarantee it works. I wake up in the morning wondering what I am going to write today. I get up from my nap wondering what am I going to read for the rest of the day. I normally have 3 - 5 books going at a time. I heartily believe this along with art work keeps me cognitive and will prolong my time in Early Stage. That is it will if I keep on my meds, exercise, eat right, and remain as social as I can however spotty it often is. Mike Donohue My Blog: My Alzheimer’s Afterthoughts http://im-mike.blogspot.com/ My Book: FROM AA TO AD, A Wistful Travelogue http://icmike.blogspot.com/ |
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may i have permission to print this thread? you have all explained so succinctly the need for family involvement and social interaction. i take mom to afternoon parties with me. she turns into a social butterfly. her words are not usually clear, but my friends, now her friends, do not care. they look into her heart. wish my brother would do the same. he is trying to take mom away. it would be so helpful to have the voices of experience speak to him.
i await your response, think you are all marvelous and consider you friends. you have taught me so much about mom. thank you so very much. because of you, i enjoy mom and feel privileged to serve her! Love is divine power. |
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I am more than happy to have you use my thread, this one or any other Print, Publish, Post, you have permission carte blanche.
I have posted this before, do so again, direct it to you and anyone else:
Mike Donohue My Blog: My Alzheimer’s Afterthoughts http://im-mike.blogspot.com/ My Book: FROM AA TO AD, A Wistful Travelogue http://icmike.blogspot.com/ |
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wyn, alan,rosanne, lisa, bill, iris, gyr, lynne, barbara, beckie? i would like to use the entire thread.
Love is divine power. |
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Wyn tell your kids how you need more social contact from them as a family.They don't know unless you tell them......
SnowyLynne |
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Use away!
Good Luck! Peace and Hope, Lisa check out my blog @ http://lcc-thoughtsfromtherollercoaster.blogspot.com/ |
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The word is given - full speed ahead!
Alan |
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Don't know why you'd wanna use anything of mine, but I would be honored.
Just remember that I am to Mr Hyde what these wonderful people are to Dr. Jekyll. There is such a STRONG WILL among all of us! I can feel it and I only wish we could channel it and bring about the results we need. "Memory.....is an internal rumor." - George Santayana My blog: www.wheretobud.blogspot.com |
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GYR singing in. Okay with me to use anything I have posted. My name is Gwen for those who don't know.
gyr |
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Post away.
Iris L. I am my own caregiver. |
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Once I post I don't remember what I wrote but you're welcome to it. I just hope it's not embarrassing.
Iris L. I am my own caregiver. |
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If my words can be useful, helpful or encouraging in any way, feel free to use them.
Pay it forward. "Life, ya just gotta laugh" BeckyP (Full time cargiver, 11 years, mom AD) |
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thank you so much. it is of great comfort to have your help. it has helped to keep mom at home on the farm. when it gets time for court, again she will be helped. til then, she gets to stay at home, by directive of portland police department! yipee, we got round one but have prepared for heavy battle in court. thank you again. you do not realize how much you all help mom!
Love is divine power. |
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Oh, eloquent, that is the most wonderful news!!!
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Dear Mike: Thank you so much for what you wrote-this is the place I am at. In the report I received they tole me I was MCI-how does this relate to Alz.? My father and some relatives have had AD. We had my fathers brain sent to Souther Illinois University for study-to meake sure that is what he had and most definitly did. I will be 65 in Sept. and have been having memory problems for about 2 years, my family just had noticed this past spring. I have had lots of testing. One of the terms used was "controlled phonemic fluencey was seriouly deficient" can you tell me what this means? I can't find information on this. Thank you.
hammer562@verizon.net You may be the only Bible some reads. |
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Hey Eloquent Solution,
That's great news! Please, if we can do anything to help you further, please, let us know! My thoughts and prayers are with you. Peace and Hope, Lisa check out my blog @ http://lcc-thoughtsfromtherollercoaster.blogspot.com/ |
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If you really are tired of hearing this tell the people to buzz off or "shut up"!!!!
SnowyLynne |
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To Snowy Lynne:
Your advice is great short cut advice to "forget it, quit whining, get on with your life!" That is not why I wrote this piece. My purpose was directed toward the stereotype from which the comment: "Your so good you can't have it" arises. This "you can't have it" characterization arises from a misunderstanding of the disease. The common stereotype is this: If you have it you have to be standing in a corner unable to find your direction out of it. The reality of the disease is you can function so well, work around your limitations and come off as normal as the next guy. This is good. It is also wonderful for us. If we have this disease our best quality of life is secured by 1. knowing we have it. 2. treating it accordingly, and, 3. by virtue of doing that staying in the Early Stage longer. That is good for us, good for the community because it keeps us off those rolls of need that increase the Cost of Care. When we "look so good we must not have it" many wrong things result.
2. There are so many programs that can help us stay in Early Stage if we get them. The Mantra, "Take your medication, eat right, participate in social, creative, intellectually stimulating activities" really helps our quality of life and helps us stay in Early Stage longer. Looking like we don't need help defeats any possibility of having organized the activity side of what we need. 3. We in the Early Stage fall through the cracks when it comes to getting any kind of public attention. Even though we do not show our impediments we still have them. Having to deal with them, more than not, contributes to accelerating them. Loneliness breeds more loneliness. Boredom lets us slip too readily into mid stage. I could go on. 4. We will get there soon enough! The more we can arrest the process by doing something about it the better we will be off. Therefore, join with me in doing all we can to accomplish all of this. Do not stand for the stereotype, "You can't have it." When you hear it let loose with the litany: "If only you knew" then give the rendition of what you have to deal with that they don't see. Bottom line: The Stereotype does us disservice, do not stand for it! Mike Donohue My Blog: My Alzheimer’s Afterthoughts http://im-mike.blogspot.com/ My Book: FROM AA TO AD, A Wistful Travelogue http://icmike.blogspot.com/ |
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Eloquent as always, Mike. I'm a step past where you are, and I don't get to hear, "You can't have it," any more.
I think it's a processing speed thing, and also reflects how small my working memory is getting. Those conspire to keep me from sounding normal in almost any conversation of moderate length. Alan |
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I hear it alot but just ignore the people.They have no idea & really don't want to know or learn.......
SnowyLynne |
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Mike, I think the response of "if only you knew" would work well when people ask, "What makes you think you have problems?"
Thanks for your post at the top. I'd like to copy it for the day when my family actually wants to accept that something's going wrong with me. Sue |
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I AM TIRED OF HEARING, “YOU ARE SO SHARP, YOU CAN’T HAVE IT!”
